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Why is there so much variation
in the passive solar performance of your home designs?
Each of our home designs was
originally based on the wishes of one particular homeowner, including their
preference for size, number of rooms, land, views, family size, lifestyle, and
value that they placed on saving energy and being sustainable. Because every
client is different in their goals, each of our plans is different, and
therefore some have a greater % of passive solar than others.
I'm in a big hurry...can you help me?
We are a small,
service-oriented architectural firm that specializes in passive solar home
design. Attention to detail takes time, whether it is preparing the custom
energy recommendations that are a part of the blueprint orders, custom changes
to an existing plan, or a custom design just for you. In order for us to
perform work at our high quality standards, we appreciate your getting in touch
with us as soon as possible if you're considering our services, and not waiting
until the day before you need the work done. Thanks!
Can you help me find a builder in my area that has built one of your
homes or is willing to follow your plans? Also, can you tell me how much and
what kind of insulation I should use in my climate and whether or not the
overhang length will need to be adjusted for proper summer shading?
Yes, once you become a client
of ours (by contracting with us on at least the first review and consulting
phase of custom changes or a custom design - see
this page), the sky is the limit on the type of questions you can ask
and the assistance that we can give. We are used to assisting clients with
things such as finding a builder or good HVAC contractor, researching new
products, and pointing you to others that may be able to help you if we can't.
We also provide some limited
consulting for those who just purchase blueprints, erasable vellums, or CAD
files without custom changes. Just send us your list of questions along with
your order. If you want the questions answered prior to ordering, then please
begin our Custom Change process of which the first stage is review and
consulting of your questions. The fee starts at $295 and in the event your questions
truly are short (most are rather involved), we can credit any extra to your
plan order.
At this time, we do not keep
a database of builders, but if our business grows enough to justify this, then
we might in the future. Right now, few clients take the time to report back on
their builder which would be a requirement prior to us recommending them, but
if you build one of our plans and find one, please let us know.
In preparing the custom
energy recommendations that come with custom plans as well as the purchase of
blueprints, erasable vellums, or CAD files, we take a look at the required
insulation and south overhang length for your climate as well as point you to
web sites that can assist you in finding a builder, good HVAC company, or
non-profit organizations that provide consulting at no charge.
I would like to visit some of your completed homes. Can you tell me where
the closest one to us is?
Regarding homes to view,
clients to talk to, or model homes, we get many inquiries similar to this, and
I hope that the following answers that we have compiled here will answer some
of your questions further.
Have you looked at the photos
that are available for some of our plans? Click on the drop down box for each
house plan to see if there are any photos, or visit our photo summary page. Clients have generously
sent us these pictures to share.
While we can certainly
understand your wanting to see a finished home or talk to our clients, we rely
on our web site, house plan book, study plans, construction review sets, and
our reputation in passive solar design to sell our house plans. We are an
architectural firm that sells only house plans and custom design, not a
developer than sells finished homes or construction kits. We do not have any
model homes and we do not ask that any of our clients open their homes for
public viewing or to be able to discuss their home with others. We realize this
may cause some loss in sales of our house plans, but the privacy of our clients
is more important. Occasionally we have a client who loves to share with us,
and if that is the case, the photos and info are referenced with each house
plan. We are grateful for the photos that we do have that our clients have
generously sent.
A variation of our Northern
Lights constructed in 1989 was published in several magazines. The owner has
sent us a letter
which you may read.
Have you ordered the study
plan for the house you are interested in? They are larger drawings and most
show furniture placement, all four elevations, and often times much more,
depending upon the drawings that the original client requested. Each house plan
has a study plan listed for it. They start at around $60 including shipping.
We also have construction
review sets which are more to study the construction aspect of the home, but
include the study plan as well. They are a mini set of blueprints minus the
custom energy recommendations. They are stamped not for construction.
We can credit the price of the Construction Review Sets, which start at around
$200, to blueprint and other complete house plan orders. (Sorry, new do not
credit the cost of study plan orders alone.) Please visit our ordering page for more information.
We have rotating 3-D models
of the exterior of our Solstice and Maple Grove homes available. (You can order the
models using our shopping
cart. Click on the house plan name, then scroll to the bottom for 3D
model of these homes).
A few of our house plans (and
those designed by others) have been on the national tour of solar homes in
October, and this would be the best way to see a passive solar home. Check out www.ases.org and click on
"home tours" for more information.
If you have trouble
visualizing from floor plans and elevations, we recommend that you hire a local
architect to design your house. Many are used to providing additional sketches
and detailed assistance during the design phase. Architectural fees are often
the same as you would pay a realtor if you were purchasing an equivalently
sized home, and our limited service, internet-based design can be less.
And finally, once you become
a custom client by at least engaging us in the initial stage of consulting and
review of your proposed changes or information for a custom design (this allows
us both to see if we are a good client/architect match), we would then consider
contacting a previous client for you if there is one nearby that may be willing
to open up their home to you.
I would like to see you design smaller (larger, etc.) homes and have told
you about this in emails, but I still do not see any plans that fit my needs.
Do you not take into consideration what people are asking for?
We get many emails similar to
this with requests that are too numerous to list. Every request is valid for
that particular client. We do not design a home unless we first have a client.
The client's needs come first. If you do not see a plan that incorporates what
you would like, it is because no one else has yet asked for that in a plan.
Most of our clients began at the same point as you, looking for an
existing/stock plan, realizing there wasn't one available, then trusting us to
design one for them. If you are interested in our custom design (usually priced
less than or equal to realtor fees if you were buying an existing home), then
please request our custom design questionnaire.
Can I get a discount on your design fees if I bring in my own drawings -
either sketches by hand or from a computer program?
While we can certainly
understand your desire to start on the design of your own home, in reality
these drawings would actually increase our fees if you insist that we stick to
them. There could be an exception to this someday, but we have yet to see one.
Here is a response from another firm that posted a very good response to this
same question:
A couple times a year, we
have clients come in with "designs" that they've created on a $49 CAD
program from the local big-box electronics retailer. Some ask for a discount on
design fees (we're design-build), but most have abandoned the software after a
few clumsy printouts and a couple hours of frustration. Our normal response is
to encourage them to continue being excited & involved about the design
process, but now to let the experienced professionals take the lead in creating
their dream house. We rarely have much use for what these programs spit-out,
and never offer to discount our fees. We usually send them over to the local permit
dept. for a quick dose of reality from the plans examiner. Not a single client
has every complained or walked away. Most gain a better understanding of the
complexities of architectural design.
- Ron Danne, AIBD
My favorite plan is no longer listed. What happened to it?
Thanks for noticing that some
of our plans are no longer on the main house plan list. We apologize for any
inconvenience and do appreciate your interest in that plan especially since one
of the reasons we are phasing out some of our plans is due to lack of interest.
Please email us with the plan name and we will tell you how to find it on our
site as well as let you know why it was being phased out. We will most likely
continue to make it available throughout 2004 or longer if we get more interest
in it. Still, we realize that the plan may suit your needs in light of the
below issues, and in that case, we are happy to sell you the plan.
As a rule, we are phasing out some of our plans to make room for better ones.
The plans that we are phasing out usually fall into two or more of the
following categories:
- Older plan that no longer met our current drawing standards
- Unpopular plan as indicated by sales/li>
- Too similar to another plan and this caused confusion/li>
- Low percentage of south glass (often because the first floor was
large or the house was angled to the sun)/li>
- S.F. was higher than sustainable building guidelines of s.f. per
bedroom (see list on custom services page)/li>
- Designed to be placed at a 45 degree angle to the sun (there is no
margin for error in locating the house, especially in climates with summers
that require air conditioning)/li>
I noticed that some of your plans are designed to sit at an angle to
the sun with two walls facing south—one southeast and one southwest. Why is
that?
Those plans were designed for
lots that are angled to the sun. It was impossible to make a house with a long
east-west axis fit on the site. You should select a plan that is designed to
sit at a 45 degree angle only when your land is so tight that no other plan
will fit, as there is some energy compromise in terms of less solar gain and
possible afternoon overheating in the summer. You must be certain you can
layout the house taking into account magnetic north (we provide that info with
blueprint orders as well as other energy recommendations to make the best of
the situation).
We would like to have you convert a plan to ICF walls and have the plan
adjusted for our location. We'd also like to use the master bath from another
plan. How involved is this?
We have changed the outside walls of other plans to ICF. Each plan is different
and not until we get into it, can we tell exactly what the implications would
be as our first choice is to leave the exterior dimensions the same to stay
within the 2' framing which is best for the roof framing to avoid waste. Some
people just expand out, but that throws off the roof framing from the 2' increments.
The windows also are affected by the ICF so we take a close look at that area
- esp. the south wall. Still that is sometimes a field change direct from
our plans if you felt comfortable having your builder do that and if your
building inspector would allow.
Of course you can have a
local design professional make the changes too working from our CAD files and
that is appropriate if you also needed other changes to adapt the plan to any
unusual building code requirements as our plans are not designed for the
extremes of conditions such as earthquakes, expansive soils, high winds, or
high snow loads. (You might want to take the Construction Review Set to your
building inspection department, builder, and/or local engineer.) To have a set
of plans designed for all extremes would make the house over designed and
therefore very expensive to build. A structural engineer from your area should
review the plans anyway and that is why sometimes clients order the CAD files
instead of blueprints and have us sent them directly to the engineer. Changing
just the master bath is usually not that involved, so just sketch out what you
would want or send us a list of your ideas and we'll come up with the best
layout.
The adjustments for location
are done with both CAD file and blueprint orders as part of our Custom Energy
Recommendations that are included with orders for blueprints and CAD files. You
may want to see the information in our Custom Changes
section and request our Custom Changes Questionnaire that further explains the
fees and process if you want us to make the changes.
Buiding Codes, CAD files & Engineers
We receive inquiries as to
whether or not our plans are suitable (without further modifications) for a
particular location. The answer is usually they might be, but that a local
structural engineer must first review the plans for conformance to local
conditions and local codes. They can recommend whether you need to increase or
decrease the requirements of the drawings. With the extremes of snow loads,
earthquakes, high winds, and unstable soils, it would be cost prohibitive to
design a home that met all of the possible extreme conditions. This is usually
true of any set of house plans and not just ours. Even if a location has
adopted the new International Residential Code which we use as a guide in our
newer designs, there could be local modifications and additions to it.
Usually the structural
engineer (one with a PE – Professional Engineer - license and seal) can review
the plans and attach any recommendations in the form of 8.5x11 notes to
supplement the drawings. So far we do not know of any of our plans that would
not work with this process. Other times the client has ordered the CAD
(computer aided design) files instead of blueprints and had the engineer make
the additional notes right on the drawings as the local building inspection
department may require that. Sometimes nothing else may be needed – the
contractor would need only to follow the local building code that is full of
the additional information needed to build a house. If you are in any area that
has no building codes, the specs that come with our drawings still specify
which one for you to get and suggest that your builder follow. Also, as we do
not have a structural engineer on staff and even our custom designs must also
have a local structural engineer review the plans although our preference is to
work along with one during the custom process. This is good insurance for your
house and the fee even when combined with ours usually still adds up to less
than the realtors fee if you were buying an existing home.
Architects by law are not
allowed to do engineering work such as structural, electrical, plumbing, and
HVAC (heating and air conditioning). If an architect does provide those
services or drawings, they are most likely are subbing out that work to
engineers licensed in the state where the house is to be built. For most homes
built, all but the most complex and large residences have the plumbing and HVAC
work as well as electrical circuiting design performed by the builder's
subcontractors as they do the construction. The ideal situation would be to
hire an engineer licensed in your state to not only add detailed structural
drawings to our set of plans (CAD files would most likely be the easiest), but
also design the plumbing, electrical, heating and air conditioning, but since
the costs for this extra work can be high and it is not the norm in the house
building industry, it is seldom done. Since engineers are also trained in
different disciplines, it may be difficult to find one trained in all engineering
aspects which then means you must work with either several engineers or a large
engineering firm that has all on staff. Often the larger firms do not accept
residential work and if so, will only work through architects. The usual
alternative is then to have just a structural engineer involved, and to have
the home owner and builder share liability by having the builder's subs do the
plumbing, HVAC, and electrical engineering.
What drawings are included with orders for Blueprints, CAD Files, and Erasable
Vellums?
Please see the description
drop down box for each house plan for the drawings that are included with each
house plan order as they vary quite a bit based on what our original client
requested. Most of the drawings are limited in nature as is the case with other
stock house plans. (Commercial projects and high-end residential homes drawings
can have much more drawings and the price for such increases proportionately.)
The house plans are designed to be built by a knowledgeable builder and will
not contain all of the details necessary for construction. The plans are
designed to be used along with the building codes, which address the other
construction details, but there is no substitute for an experienced builder
that can work out all of the other details. We have made our Construction
Review Sets available so that if you have any questions about the
construction drawings that you would be receiving, that you can explore them
prior to placing a more expensive order.
We suggest ordering the
Construction Review Set if you have concerns prior to ordering Construction
Drawings - Blueprints, Erasable Vellums, and CAD files. The review sets
(stamped not for construction) are similar to the full orders although we often
update and change our plans somewhat. There are also specs and custom energy
recommendations that are attached to the cover of the full sets and not the
construction review sets.
Regarding engineering
drawings, the schematic electrical is already included in many plans (see list
with each plan). Circuiting is not since we do not have an electrical engineer
on staff. Plumbing nor HVAC we do not provide, as we do not have a mechanical
engineer on staff. In addition, a local structural engineer must review the
plans for conformance to your area and provide additional engineering usually
in the form of 8.5x11 information, but sometimes in the form of drawings.
(Those in areas that need a lot more engineering – areas with high seismic
activity, high winds, high snow loads, or unstable soils – usually order the
CAD files so that the engineers can add their information directly to the
drawings.)
If you want more details than
the set of drawings comes with, please ask prior to placing your order for
Blueprints or CAD Files and if our schedule allows we may be able to provide
them. If you need more extensive drawings, it would be best to order our CAD
files and have a local designer or architect along with their engineers add the
extra sheets. Full service architectural services do include the engineering
drawings and that could be where the confusion comes in. The fees for custom
architectural services that would include that and much more all the way
through construction overseeing would range from 10-15% of construction costs.
Sorry, but with the demand of our limited service architectural work, we no
longer offer full service architectural. Feel free to send in a list of
questions at the time you place an order for blueprints, CAD files, or erasable
vellums and if it is not too extensive, the architect will answer your
questions or address your concerns in the custom energy specs.
We live in Canada and were wondering if your plans are designed for
Canada?
Response from Sun Plans architect Debbie Coleman: While I was teaching a
passive solar workshop in Ottawa, I became much more aware of the Canadian
building industry. The other professionals that I met with there indicated that
they did not see problems with builders using our plans as most places in
Canada use the imperial system anyway and the builders and homeowners continue
to order house plans from other US companies.Our custom energy recommendations adapt the insulation values to your
location in Canada, but this is not done until you place an order for
blueprints, erasable vellums, or CAD files. You may feel more comfortable ordering the Construction Review Set
for the plan you are interested in and running it by your builder and inspector
first. (The price is deducted from future blueprint, vellum or CAD file orders.)
Also, even for locations in the U.S.,
we recommend a local structural engineer review the plans for your area as it
is impossible for us to design a house that meets all codes. Some cities even
have their own variation of a building code. A house designed for all extreme
conditions (high snow, high wind, expansive soils, earthquakes) would cost a
fortune to build. People sometimes order our CAD files and have us send them
directly by email to the structural engineer so that he may make any changes and
additions to our plans. The engineer may also make design changes for you too
as we give a one-time copyright release.
Questions in General: We would like to know what you think about
geothermal heat pumps, SIP panels, solar panels, a new insulation, etc. (you
fill in the blank as the subjects are endless) Have you ever designed such a
home using this technology?
Debbie (the architect who is
involved with at least the first stage of all of our custom services) is used
to doing all kinds of research once you become a custom client and I'm sure she
would be willing to look into your questions and many more. Often our services
involve as much research as they do actual drawing. I can't say for sure about
your question, but clients often send her links to research and she often gives
opinions on the mechanical systems although since we are not mechanical
engineers, we do not actually design them. A simple yes or no cannot usually be
given for most questions and therefore our policy is not to do consulting until
you become a client.
We can also provide
additional consulting even if you just order a stock plan unaltered. In that
case, please send in your list of questions along with your order and if the
questions are something that can be addressed while she prepares the custom
energy recommendations, then there may be no additional fee.
Most people who want consulting, actually first go through the Custom Changes
process where she looks at your proposed ideas in relation to that particular
plan. When you get to the stage of having narrowed down a plan to one or two,
please request our Custom Changes Questionnaire. Currently the minimum fee
with that is $295. The consulting may or may not turn into actual custom changes
to that plan based on numerous reasons, but includes assessing whether continuing
would be a good client-architect match.
Most of our clients who ask
very detailed questions end up with a custom design after they try
unsuccessfully to put their life into a house we designed for someone else.
(Sort of like Cinderella's sister trying to make the shoe fit…) Please visit
our custom
services page for more information.
Do your plans &/or energy recommendations suggest radiant floor
heating? Is this compatible with your passive solar design?
Since most of our custom
design clients (who we first designed the plan for) want to at least consider
radiant floor heating, most of our plans mention it as an option in both the
drawings and specs which even have a list of radiant floor heating resources.
Sun Plans does not actually provide the mechanical engineering of the system,
but our drawings have notes allowing for it as an option should the client
choose. It can be added to any plan and often by the contractor in the field or
certainly by a local design professional if you order our CAD files or erasable
vellums.
What is the definition of "Plan Complexity?" I realize the
obvious, but would like to hear from you group just how or if further
"complexity" translates into increased construction costs or are we
just speaking of increases in time spent on the blueprints (and yes, I know
that increases costs as well). Thanks! Jim
Thanks for pointing out that
we had not described the plan complexity. We have just added a description at
the bottom of this page: http://www.sunplans.com/html/list.php3 that described
the items in our list. We created that category as a rough guide since many
people were contacting us wanting to know which were the simplest of our plans
to construct. It does not relate to the complexity of blueprints as most of our
plans are at the same standard now anyway, but we appreciate your awareness of
the fact that drawings can vary in complexity too! In the extremes from simple
plans by draftsman & designers, to complex plans created by full-service
architectural design, our construction drawings would fall into the average
category - a good basic set without the expense of extensive detailing.
Why don't you have any flat roofed, southwestern style plans when the
architect used to live in Arizona? (the same question could be why don't you
have any Swiss Chalets since she used to live there too...etc.) Of course, by
now we may, so please browse our plans.
We do not design homes until
we have clients with a wish list and there can be just about any item or style
on that list for their custom home. We design what our custom clients ask us
for. If someone requests a flat roofed adobe style house, we design one. If
they request a straw bale, we design one. If they request a modern house with a
steel frame, we design one. So the answer as to why we do not have a particular
style of home is because no one has asked us to design one, or if they have, as
is the case with southwestern style homes, we do not necessarily put all of our
plans on the web site. If we think other people would also like the design that
we arrive at, we may then post it to our web site. Also, the plans on the web
site are only the plans that have been designed since 1990 and many are much
newer than that as (unlike some house plan companies) we do not sell older
plans.
What is a daylight cooling chimney? I see them indicated on some of your
plans.
Daylight cooling chimneys, or
similar sounding description in OUR plans are a space framed and insulated
between homes with truss-framed roofs in one story homes. They allow both
daylight in and hot air out. The daylight into the center of the home brightens
that area of the floor plan. The hot air exiting maximizes the season for
passive cooling. An operable window (manual or electronic – whatever your mfg.
can supply) or an insulated wall mounted fan lets hot air out. Daylight cooling
chimneys work best on one story homes with no basements since they have the
least amount of stack effect – distance between the lowest entry and highest
exit of air flow.
Our Construction Review Sets
have more information on simple construction items like Daylight Cooling
Chimneys that are designed into our homes where the original client was either
not going to use mechanical air conditioning, or either wanted to maximize
their passive cooling season. If you like one of our plans with a truss framed
roof that did not have a daylight cooling chimney, then let us know after you
place your order for Blueprints, Vellums, or CAD files, and we can makes some
notes about adding one in the Custom Energy Recommendations that accompany
those orders. If you are considering custom design, we may or may not recommend
one based on the other many factors that go into the design of a home.
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